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tocreemer
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Initially Posted - 02/13/2018 :  07:04:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm new to the Capri 25. I've sailed aboard one in several local races, but never have been involved with any sort of repair on the boat. I've found a local Capri 25 that I thought I would purchase, but after inspecting the boat I am worried about the Keel.

I've included a link to a google drive with a few photos of the keel sump and the Hull at the keel attachment point. It appears to me the bracing the keel attaches to within the hull is compromised. What I don't know is how keel box is constructed and what the extent of work would be in making a repair.

Does anyone have any pictures or diagrams that detail the construction around the keel mount? Has anyone had a similar issue and made a repair. Any thoughts or tips would be appreciated. I've done quite a bit of fiberglass and hull work on other boats, but this one makes me nervous.


https://drive.google.com/open?id=1w6R3VcXGzjvOrQVBPUfTnGyqDEDHnQ3v

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joearcht
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Response Posted - 02/13/2018 :  08:04:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I think your nervousness is justifiable. Check the "Manual & Brochures" link on this website then select the "Architectural Drawings" link under Capri 25.
There you will find all of the available construction documents for this boat. The keel area is a weak link in the design and many boats have suffered to varying degrees by deterioration of this area. Anything is fixable, the question is, as always, is it worth it. My boat probably has a similar problem and I've retired it from competition accordingly. I determined the repair was not worth the effort and I've moved on to racing other boats, leaving the Capri for just pleasure sailing now. I've never heard of a catastrophic failure of the keel, but I suppose anything is possible with enough neglect. Also, check into the current One design rules for this boat, there has been some discussion of this issue and how to fix it and stay within the one design requirements. I did not race one design, so I'm sorry I can't tell you more about that, others may be able to add to this aspect of the boats history. Good Luck

Joe W Hiller Jr
1985 Capri 25
Hull #433
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GaryB
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Response Posted - 02/13/2018 :  19:36:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Why buy something that makes you nervous before you've even written the check. There are thousands of boats in this world. Find another one.


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GaryB
Andiamo
'89 SR/WK #5862
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SailTowery
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Response Posted - 02/15/2018 :  12:27:13  Show Profile  Visit SailTowery's Homepage  Reply with Quote
That looks like it would take some major surgery. I have keel sump drawings I will try and upload later.

I had a small crack around the front of my keel/hull joint. There were some small circular cracks around the keel bolts but they were small and uniform so I haven't worried about them too much.

I did repair the crack though. I ground it out with and angle grinder and the crack was contained to the outer skin. I couldn't see any deep damage. I glassed it over, faired it out and after a full season of racing, ramp launching and some travel, the crack has not returned.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1wVOTn48fAkArZ7EPMdFv7-6x6F2-5bKX

As others have said, it may not be worth it. Just from the pics it looks pretty bad. You're the only one who can make that call though.



Ben
Little Wing
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SailTowery
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Response Posted - 02/15/2018 :  12:34:02  Show Profile  Visit SailTowery's Homepage  Reply with Quote
If you all want to follow Little Wing, here's my boat's FB page...https://www.facebook.com/capri25littlewing/

Ben
Little Wing
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joearcht
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Response Posted - 02/15/2018 :  13:00:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
tocreemer, I just looked at the pictures you posted, your boats situation is much worse than mine ever was. I'd say NO to that purchase hands down, unless you pick the boat up cheap enough and want to put in the repair time. Doesn't look like a good boat to sail right now, needs a tear down and rebuild for sure. I'd also suspect that the boat has run aground pretty hard.

Joe W Hiller Jr
1985 Capri 25
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